Father’s Rights and Violence Against Women

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by Dr. Michael Flood

In this talk, I’m going to focus on the ‘fathers’ rights’ movement, and their impact on violence against women.

Introduction: The fathers’ rights movement

The fathers’ rights movement is defined by the claim that fathers are deprived of their ‘rights’ and subjected to systematic discrimination as men and fathers, in a system biased towards women and dominated by feminists. Fathers’ rights groups overlap with men’s rights groups and both represent an organised backlash to feminism. Fathers’ rights and men’s rights groups can be seen as the anti-feminist wing of the men’s movement, the network of men’s groups and organisations mobilised on gender issues (Flood, 1998).fathers rights, feminism, domestic violence, violence against children, battered women, men's rights movement

Two experiences bring most men (and women) to the fathers’ rights movement. The first is deeply painful marriage breakups and custody battles. Fathers’ rights groups are characterised by anger and blame directed at ex-partners and the ‘system’ that has deprived men or fathers of their ‘rights’, and such themes are relatively common among men who have undergone separation and divorce. The second experience is non-resident fathers’ dissatisfaction with loss of contact with their children or with regimes of child support.

The fathers’ rights movement focuses on trying to re-establish fathers’ authority and control over their children’s and ex-partners’ lives, on gaining an equality concerned with fathers’ ‘rights’ and status rather than the actual care of children, and on winding back legal and cultural changes which have lessened gender inequalities.

Fathers’ rights groups are well-organised advocates for changes in family law, and vocal opponents of feminist perspectives and achievements on interpersonal violence.

Impact of the fathers’ rights movement on violence against women

The fathers’ rights movement has had four forms of impact on violence against women.

Priviledging contact over safety

Most importantly, the fathers’ rights movement has influenced family law, with damaging consequences for women, children, and indeed men. Above all, fathers’ contact with children has been privileged, over children’s safety from violence. [See The Custody Scam, the story of Dawn Axsom, Child Abuse: When Family Courts Get it Wrong, Letter to Judge from Jury foreman regarding prosecution of mother trying to protect her children from abusive father, or watch the PBS documentary Breaking The Silence; Children’s Stories at the bottom of this post.–Deborrah]

An uncritical assumption that children’s contact with both parents is necessary now pervades the courts and the media. The Family Court’s new principle of the ‘right to contact’ is overriding its principle of the right to ‘safety from violence’. The Court now is more likely to make interim orders for children’s unsupervised contact in cases involving domestic violence or child abuse, to use hand-over arrangements rather than suspend contact until trial, and to make orders for joint residence where there is a high level of conflict between the separated parents and one parent strongly objects to shared residence.

The fathers’ rights movement has been unsuccessful in achieving its key goal of a rebuttable presumption of children’s joint residence after separation. However, other changes in family law and government policy over the last two years have reflected its influence. Recent reforms mean that greater numbers of parents who are the victims of violence will be subject to further violence and harassment by abusive ex-partners, while children will face a greater requirement to have contact with abusive or violent parents.

Current government policy echoes many of the key themes of the fathers’ rights movement. Both government policy and many fathers’ rights groups are guided by two central, and mistaken, assumptions: that all children see contact with both parents as in their best interests in every case, and that a violent father is better than no father at all (DVIRC, 2005, pp. 5-6). Both bodies talk of ‘conflict’ rather than violence, neglect violence as a legitimate issue for the courts and family services to address, emphasise mediation and counseling as solutions, and focus on punishing women for making false allegations or breaching contact orders.

Discrediting victims

The second impact the fathers’ rights movement has had on violence against women is in discrediting victims. Fathers’ rights groups tell two key lies.

First, fathers’ rights groups tell the lie that women routinely make false accusations of child abuse to gain advantage in family law proceedings and to arbitrarily deny their ex-partners’ access to the children.

Second, fathers’ rights groups tell the lie that women routinely make up allegations of domestic violence to gain advantage in family law cases and use protection orders to remove men from their homes or deny contact with children rather than out of any real experience or fear of violence.

I have written detailed critiques of these first two lies, and they are available both online and in the latest issue of the Australian journal Women Against Violence. I can send copies to anyone who wishes.

Men’s versus women’s violence (Impact on perceptions of intimate violence)

Related to this, the fathers’ rights movement also has had some impact on public perceptions of intimate violence. In particular, it tells the lie that domestic violence is gender-equal or gender-neutral – that men and women assault each other at equal rates and with equal effects.

While I’ve called this a lie, this is one claim for which there is some academic support.

To support the claim that domestic violence is gender-symmetrical, advocates draw almost exclusively on studies using a measurement tool called the Conflict Tactics Scale. The CTS situates domestic violence within the context of “family conflict”. It asks one partner in a relationship whether, in the last year, they or their spouse have ever committed any of a range of violent acts. CTS studies generally find gender symmetries in the use of violence in relationships. There are three problems with the use made of such studies by fathers’ rights activists.

First, men’s rights and fathers’ rights groups make only selective use of this data, as CTS authors themselves reject efforts to argue that women’s violence against men is as common or as harmful as men’s violence against women (Kimmel 2001, p. 22).

dating violence, domestic violence, abusive men, child custody battles, child abuse, violence against women, abusive menSecond, there are methodological problems with the Conflict Tactics Scale. The CTS is widely criticized for not gathering information about the intensity, context, consequences or meaning of the action. The CTS ignores who initiates the violence (when women are more likely to use violence in self-defense), assumes that violence is used expressively (e.g. in anger) and not instrumentally (to ‘do’ power or control), omits violent acts such as sexual abuse, stalking and intimate homicide, ignores the history of violence in the relationship, neglects the question of who is injured, relies on only one partner’s reports despite poor interspousal reliability, and omits incidents after separation and divorce, which is a time of increased danger for women.

Third, a wide range of other data find marked gender asymmetries in domestic violence. For example, crime victimization studies based on large-scale aggregate data, household and crime surveys, police statistics, and hospital data all show that men assault their partners and ex-partners at rates several times the rate at which women assault theirs and that female victims greatly outnumber male victims (Tjaden & Thoennes 2000, pp. 25-26).

Feminist and other scholars have worked to reconcile the conflicting findings of these bodies of data. One important insight is the recognition of different patterns of violent behaviour in couples and relationships. Some heterosexual relationships suffer from occasional outbursts of violence by either husbands or wives during conflicts, what some (Johnson 1995, 284-285) call “common couple violence”.

Here, the violence is relatively minor, both partners practise it, it is expressive in meaning, it tends not to escalate over time, and injuries are rare. In situations of “patriarchal terrorism” on the other hand, one partner (usually the man) uses violence and other controlling tactics to assert or restore power and authority. The violence is more severe, it is asymmetrical, it is instrumental in meaning, it tends to escalate, and injuries are more likely.

CTS studies are only a weak measure of levels of minor ‘expressive’ violence in conflicts among heterosexual couples. They are poorer again as a measure of ‘instrumental’ violence, in which one partner uses violence and other tactics to assert power and authority (Johnson 1995, 284–285).

There is no doubt that men are the victims of domestic violence. Men experience domestic violence at the hands of female and male sexual partners, ex-partners, and other family members.

A growing body of research tells us that there are important contrasts in women’s and men’s experiences of domestic violence. Women are far more likely than men to be subjected to frequent, prolonged, and extreme violence, to sustain injuries, to fear for their lives, and to be sexually assaulted (Kimmel 2001, 19; Bagshaw et al. 2000). Men subjected to domestic violence by women rarely experience post-separation violence and have more financial and social independence. Female perpetrators of domestic violence are less likely and less able than male perpetrators to use nonphysical tactics to maintain control over their partners (Swan & Snow 2002, 291-292).

Women’s physical violence towards intimate male partners is often in self-defense (DeKeseredy et al. 1997; Hamberger et al. 1994; Swan & Snow 2002, 301; Muelleman & Burgess 1998, 866). On the other hand, women’s intimate violence can also be motivated by efforts to show anger, a desire for attention, retaliation for emotional hurt, and so on (Hamberger et al. 1994). It is inadequate to explain women’s violence simply in terms of their own oppression and powerlessness, and naïve to assume that women are immune from using violence to gain or maintain power in relationships (Russo 2001, 16-19).

Men are likely to under-estimate and under-report their subjection to domestic violence by women (George 1994, 149; Stockdale 1998, 63). There is no evidence however that male victims are more likely to under-report than female victims. In fact, men tend to over-estimate their partner’s violence and under-estimate their own, while women do the reverse (Kimmel 2001, 10-11).

The fathers’ rights movement’s attention to domestic violence against men is not motivated by a genuine concern for male victimisation, but by political agendas concerning family law, child custody and divorce (Kaye & Tolmie 1998, pp. 53-57). This is evident in two ways.

First, the fathers’ rights movement focuses on this violence when the great majority of the violence inflicted on men is not by female partners or ex-partners but by other men. Australian crime victimisation surveys find that less than one percent of violent incidents among men is by partners or ex-partners, compared to one-third of incidents among women (Ferrante et al. 1996, 104). Boys and men are most at risk of physical harm from other boys and men.

Second, the fathers rights’ movement seeks to erode the protections available to victims of domestic violence and to bolster the rights and freedoms of alleged perpetrators, and this harms female and male victims of domestic violence alike. I turn to this now.

Protecting perpetrators and undermining supports for victims

The fourth way in which the fathers’ rights movement has had an impact on violence against women is in its efforts to modify responses to the victims and perpetrators of violence.

The fathers’ rights movement has sought to wind back the protections afforded to the fictitious ‘victims’ of violence and to introduce legal penalties for their dishonest and malicious behavior. The Lone Fathers’ Association and other groups argue that claims of violence or abuse should be made on oath, they should require police or hospital records, and people making allegations which are not then substantiated, and those who’ve helped them, should be subject to criminal prosecution. They call for similar limitations to do with protection orders.

Fathers’ rights groups also attempt to undermine the ways in which domestic violence is treated as criminal behavior. They emphasise the need to keep the family together, call for the greater use of mediation and counseling, and reject pro-arrest policies.

Such changes would represent a profound erosion of the protections and legal redress available to the victims of violence and the ease with which they and their advocates can seek justice. This agenda betrays the fact that the concern for male victims of domestic violence often professed by fathers’ rights groups is rhetorical rather than real. While such groups purport to advocate on behalf of male victims of domestic violence, they seek to undermine the policies and services that would protect and gain justice for these same men.

Fathers’ rights groups often respond to issues of domestic and sexual violence from the point of view of the perpetrator. And they respond in the same way as actual male perpetrators: they minimise and deny the extent of this violence, blame the victim, and explain the violence as a mutual or reciprocal process (Hearn, 1996, p. 105).

This sympathy for perpetrators is evident in other ways too. Fathers’ rights advocates have expressed sympathy or justification for men who use violence against women and children in the context of family law proceedings. And, ironically, they use men’s violence to demonstrate how victimised men are by the family law system (Kaye & Tolmie, 1998a, pp. 57-58).

Members of fathers’ rights groups also act as direct advocates for alleged perpetrators of violence against women. For example, one group distributes pamphlets for ‘victims of a false AVO’, giving no attention to how to respond to ‘true’ perpetrators of violence nor to the safety of family members.

Fathers’ rights groups also attack media and community campaigns focused on men’s violence against women, call for the de-funding and abolition of what they call the “domestic violence industry”, and engage in the harassment of community sector and women’s organisations which respond to the victims of violence.

Other, positive responses by men: The White Ribbon Campaign

This is all pretty depressing news. In this context, I’ve been especially heartened to see a growing positive response by men, in alliance with women, to help stop violence against women. I will focus on one such response.

White Ribbon Day is the largest effort by men across the world, working in partnership with women, to end men’s violence against women. White ribbons are worn on the day by men to show their concern about violence against women, and by women who are supporting men. It takes place on November 25th, the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women.

In Australia, White Ribbon Day is organised in part by UNIFEM, a women’s organisation, but it is conducted in partnership with men and men’s organisations. The White Ribbon Campaign focuses on the positive roles that men can play in helping to stop violence against women.

To find out more, visit the website: http://www.whiteribbonday.org.au/


To continue our efforts to prevent violence, several strategies are necessary.

We must continue to respond effectively to those who’ve experienced this violence, the coalface work that some of you already do.

We must continue to keep the issue of violence against women on the public agenda.

We must step up efforts to engage men in positive ways, building partnerships with supportive men and men’s groups. We must confront, or sidestep, the dangerous ambitions and dishonest claims of the men’s and fathers’ rights backlash.

The achievements of the father’s rights movement are already putting women, children and indeed men at greater risk of violence and abuse. The fathers’ rights movement has exacerbated our culture’s systematic silencing and blaming of victims of violence and hampered efforts to respond effectively to the victims and perpetrators of violence.

However, the new politics of fatherhood has not been entirely captured by the fathers’ rights movement. There is potential to foster men’s positive and non-violent involvement in parenting and families. Key resources for realising the progressive potential of contemporary fatherhood politics include the widespread imagery of the nurturing father, community intolerance for violence against women, growing policy interest in addressing divisions of labour in child care and domestic work, and men’s own investments in positive parenting.

However, thwarting the fathers’ rights movement’s backlash requires that we directly confront the movement’s agenda, disseminate critiques of its false accusations, and respond in constructive and accountable ways to the fathers (and mothers) undergoing separation and divorce (Flood, 2004, pp 274-278).

Beating the backlash

The following are some of the political strategies we can use to help beat the fathers’ rights backlash.

Discredit fathers’ rights groups. Emphasise that they;

  • Are interested only in reducing their financial obligations to their children;
  • Are interested only in extending or regaining power and authority over ex-partners and children.
  • Do nothing to increase men’s actual share of childcare / parenting or men’s positive involvement in parenting both before and after separation.
  • Collude with perpetrators of violence against women and children, protect and advocate for perpetrators, or are perpetrators.
  • Produce critiques of their lies and their strategies which are credible and accessible.
  • Co-opt the new politics of fatherhood;
  • Support positive efforts to respond to separated fathers. (And emphasise that FR groups fix men in anger and blame, rather than helping them to heal.)
  • Build on men’s desires to be involved (and nonviolent) parents.
  • Find alternative male voices: supportive men and men’s / fathers’ networks and groups.

‘Speaking as a father…’

Tell women’s stories

Atrocity tales: Stories of abuse and inequality.

In letters, submissions, on talkback, etc.

(But beware of the ways in which these can (a) portray women only as victims, (b) homogenise and essentialise women’s (diverse) experiences of violence, and (c) undermine credibility and support. )

Find and nurture male allies: in government, the community sector, academic, etc.

More widely, we must continue do the work of violence prevention: to undermine the beliefs and values which support violence, challenge the power relations which sustain and are sustained by violence, and promote alternative constructions of gender and sexuality which foster non-violence and gender justice.

Contact the Author:

Dr Michael Flood
Postdoctoral Fellow
Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health and Society (ARCSHS)
La Trobe University
E-mail: michael.flood[at]anu.edu.au
PO Box 4026, Ainslie ACT, 2602

Presentation in Panel, “Myths, Misconceptions, and the Men’s Movement”, at Conference, Refocusing Women’s Experiences of Violence, Sydney, 14-16 September.
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  1. A few of these commenters here go from site to site attacking anything Dr. Flood or any intelligent person has to say. It is well known that many father’s rights groups harbor wife beaters and child rapists, but they also have good fathers that join their ranks. Unfortunately often the scum rises to the top and the radical abusers lead their direction and drivel. The National District Attorney’s Association recently cited a study about the 1 – 2 % of divorce cases that had allegtions of abuse, between 5 – 8 % of that previous amount were deemed to be false. The study was cited to be the largest and most nonbiased to date, as over 9000 cases were looked at. If these father’s rights guys wanted to do something productive, it would be to try and stamp out domestic violence, like join the White Ribbon Campaign, etc., rather than run around submitting hateful and abusive comments. They are just proving Dr. Flood’s point to me, frankly.

  2. IfYouDon\'tKnowNowYouKnow says:

    “They” have flocked to your site with the same ol shit they do to every other woman and man who doesn’t support their angry psychopathic nonsense. These are the same guys who you will see doing things found on http://domesticviolencenews.blogspot.com and http://justice.posterous.com and http://dastardlydads.blogspot.com .

    Just let them talk themselves to death and their idiocy is automatically revealed. Or, you can hit the deleted button so they can go spread lies about you on their own pathetic websites. This is how they relieve themselves when masturbation gets old.

  3. LC says:

    Wonderful and very accurate article. Thank you, Dr. Flood! The woman-hating and angry comments by father’s rights advocates following it only prove the points of your article – that father’s rights advocates do not represent good, decent men. They are the abuser’s lobby.

  4. Dave says:

    I forgot to mention earlier that my daughter will be majoring in psychology. Perhaps in a few years she will be able to provide counseling for some of these poor misandrist academics like Dr. Flood. After all, it can’t be healthy for someone to carry around this much hatred for their own gender. Obviously these folks have some serious mommy-daddy issues.

  5. Mississauga Dad says:

    Once again the feminist lobby, the domestic violence industry, the anti-father, anti-husband socialist man-haters who make up the justice system and run the country, and their sycophants like Dr. Flood have joined forces to try to foist more of their misandrist hate literature on the world. As usual we are only hearing one side of the story. Why is it we never hear about husbands who are abused by their wives? It is a lot more common than the feminist lobbies and the Domestic Violence industry would like us to know.

    Why are there no shelters for abused fathers to go to with their children? Why are there no support programs for abused fathers and husbands? Why is not a single penny spent on support for abused fathers and husbands?

    My ex-wife verbally, psychologically, and physically abused me over many years. When I went to a Family Services agency for advice and support, thinking naively that my confidentiality would be protected, the first thing they did was send a Children’s Aid worker to my home to interview my wife.
    So much for confidentiality. So not only did my wife know I had spoken to Family Services about the abuse so did her father. This led to my ex-father-in-law verbally harassing and threatening me.

    The evening the Children’s Aid worker visited, my wife threatened to kill me in front of this Children’s Aid worker. No mention of this was ever made in the worker’s report.

    As soon as the Children’s Aid worker was out the door my ex-wife was in court the next day to obtain an order to remove me from my home and to leave the children with her – banning me from seeing my children and forcing me of course to pay all of her living costs while I had to additionally find and pay for another place to live for myself. She, of course, got the order she wanted, and I was given, in the middle of a brutal Canadian winter ( I live in Ontario, Canada) , 4 days to locate and move to new accommodation.

    When my lawyer reported and documented the abuse and the threats to the judge at one of the subsequent unending court sessions during divorce proceedings the judge literally laughed in my face. “Ha. Ha. Ha.” he said, “You look like a pretty big guy to me. You still look pretty healthy to me. I don’t think she meant it.”

    At that moment I forever stopped believing that fathers and husbands had any PROTECTION whatsoever under the so-called Justice system. I also stopped believing forever that fathers and husbands had any RIGHTS under the so-called Justice system. I also realised why so few men ever report that they are on the receiving end of spousal abuse – as if the abuse from their spouse isn’t bad enough, the judges in the so-called justice system will publicly ridicule and humiliate them.

    Interestingly, a police officer who was in the courtroom that day said to me after the session ended that had my ex-wife’s lawyer provided the same evidence with the parties reversed, he would have been obligated to arrest me and incarcerate me immediately.

    Hate literature like that spouted by Dr. Flood serves only to endanger the lives, all around the world, of every innocent father and his children. Shame.

  6. Ricash39 says:

    I think this quote sums up the good Doctor:

    “Fathers’ rights groups also attack media and community campaigns focused on men’s violence against women, call for the de-funding and abolition of what they call the “domestic violence industry”

    Dr Flood has a highly paid, comfortable job in the bludgeocracy producing material to support the notion of female victimhood that is at the heart of the feminist gravy train.

    He realises this funding will be threatened by an outbreak of the truth, or indeed common sense.

    To put it simply it is in Dr Flood’s personal financial interest to write this filth.

    As always…follow the money.

  7. Mr. Tudball says:

    Gee, “Dr.” Flood…guess nobody is buying your crap! Sorry your mean mommy took away your testicles at a young age. Do you really think bashing your own gender like this is going to earn you a pat on the head from your feminist overseers? Don’t you know they are laughing at you just like the plantation owners smirked at the Old Uncle Toms? What a tool!!!

  8. shivers says:

    What an excellent article. Well written, well researched and succinctly put forward. Well done! I’ve come across Dr Flood’s writings and articles a number of times now, and each time I thank the powers that be for someone who “gets it”, someone who clearly and fully understands what is going on, and is able to express how it really is for a number of people.

    Thanks for sharing.

  9. Dave says:

    If the drivel in this article is an example of the propaganda that is currently being taught in universities then heaven help our society! Nothing but long-winded, rambling accusations without any facts to support them.

    I am probably the worst nightmare for idiots like this guy, I am a divorced father who has worked with father’s rights groups to bring about some much needed reform in our state’s child custody/child support laws. I have also fought for and eventually won custody of my daughter. She is currently in her senior year in high school and will soon be off to college. Her success in life will be our testimony to just how out of touch with reality pathetic bozos like this are.

  10. H.Q. says:

    I suspect Dr. Flood was raised by a radical feminist (single?) mother. There are even instances of such moms teaching their toddler sons to hate and fear men. Flood may be the creation of an abuse that occurred so early in his life that he is not consciously aware of it.

    (Check out his list of devious tactics to use against us.)

  11. Mike Parker says:

    Dr Flood is definitely living in Noddy Land when he maintains that father’s rights movements are a backlash against feminism. This is not true at all.

    Father’s rights movements stem from the systematic bias and removal of children following separation by the family law industry. Most father’s rights activists are ordinary dads from all walks of life, tradespeople through to senior executives. Many of them have been processed by a system that has deprived their children from having a meaningful relationship with them and their extended families.

    Fathers that are brave enough to come forward protest against arguably one of the most blatant forms of human rights abuse carried out by a global family law industry that loots and destroys family for profit.

    Dr Flood, here is a question for you. Are you a father? Do you have children? How would you feel to have your children removed from your life? How would you feel to have everything taken away from you including your children?

    Can you answer that Dr Flood? Or are you just an academic who has no clue with the reality of life.

    Please tell us Dr Flood.

  12. Mike Murphy says:

    “If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males.”

    Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001.

    This is a statement from the tribe of females called Victim Feminists Flood is aligned with. I find it hard to believe he is a male. Such self-loathing of his gender is interesting. It belies a certain pathology deeop within his psyche that he takes such a gendered and one sided aopproach. I’d like to examine him someday to see what these pathologies might just be.

    That he attempts to prove his points and fails dramatically based on empirical evidence, government studies in western democracies, and hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies is testament to an ideological focus not one that is credible.

    I actually feel sorry for him as he obviously has missed out on good male role models and given this drivel has all the appearances of a feminist ideology rather than science there is no point in wasting time debunking his mythology. Hopefully he is not in a position, such as a teacher, to influence young people. When they learn the actual truth he will not be remembered well.

  13. Josh says:

    What a horrible, horrible, ignorant article. I could write a dissertation debunking this that is so long no one would want to read it and grade it. I’ll just hit a couple of obvious points that shows this author is off his rocker.

    First, he puts for this erroneous gem: The fathersâ?? rights movement focuses on trying to re-establish fathersâ?? authority and control over their childrenâ??s and ex-partnersâ?? lives, on gaining an equality concerned with fathersâ?? â??rightsâ?? and status rather than the actual care of children, and on winding back legal and cultural changes which have lessened gender inequalities.

    The father’s rights movement has nothing to do with re-establishing control over their ex-partners lives. It’s all about the children. Fathers who are marginalized to an every-other-weekend dad have a difficult time influencing their kids lives without the courts upholding their rights to do so.

    Here’s the truth to this story (and every other story in life)…there are two sides to every story, and the truth is in the middle. There are good and bad mothers, and there are good and bad fathers. There are good mothers groups out there, and there are good fathers groups out there. There are also extremist groups on both ends of the spectrum as well. In a just society, the law would recognize this, and judges would rule on cases according to the best interests of the child. Neither gender, male nor female, has a monopoly on good or bad parent. There are no studies or statistics to support one gender being better suited to raise a child that are not seriously flawed. Therefore, in a just system, you’d see about a 50/50 mix of mothers and fathers winning primary custody of cases that go to court.

    In actuality, it’s rare for men to even push the battle all the way through court. They often settle for less out of court. Women, on the other hand, never do so, regardless of how good the father may or may not be. Therefore, it’d be reasonable to see in the short term a higher percentage of court battles go to fathers, and a higher percentage of cases that get settled out of court go to mothers if the courts were to start ruling fairly (at least until the system changes to equalize such trends).

    When fathers start winning more cases for custody than mothers, then there’s more of a need to preserve the womens rights. Right now, good fathers are being kept from their kids because of a biased system. So for the sake of the kids, there is more of a need for a fathers rights movement. And until we get a fair system, we need to marginalize extremist jerks who try to paint either side with a broad brush, because life just doesn’t work like that. That’s why judges are supposed to have the discretion that they do.

  14. Jim Ingram says:

    I do not understand why you do not provide factual data on the number of abuse cases that these women file on men that are found to be unfounded and no truth involved. These far outweigh legit claims and become a cornerstone in tactics used by women to alienate fathers from their children. Due to media and reporting it is clear now of the abuse and acts that women will do to children. Just as the womens rights movement, fathers are different people now and the majority not the minority want equality with their children to raise them and be a part of their lives. We as men/fathers want only an equal share of raising our children with the other parent; although we should not have to fight for this it should be presumed that two equal loving parents have the same rights to the child. Just as the womens rights movement we will not stop fighting for our rights until we have equal rights.

  15. Mike says:

    What about those Fathers that did not commit any abuse ? But still have had their children ripped from their lives just because the mother wanted to spread her legs for another man?
    If they join the Father’s rights they automatically are lumped together with abusers and violence towards women – what a load of crap!

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