Comments on: Why Women Should Stop Having Children http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children Making Smarter Choices in Your Search for Love Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:31:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Viv http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-710 Viv Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:08:38 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-710 Procreation is what is needed to continue with the human race. Bitter women and bitter men should never have children. I respect people who know enough not to have children and I also respect people who have the courage and love to have children. It is our complex differences that makes this crazy world go around. Procreation is what is needed to continue with the human race. Bitter women and bitter men should never have children. I respect people who know enough not to have children and I also respect people who have the courage and love to have children. It is our complex differences that makes this crazy world go around.

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By: jubilee http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-664 jubilee Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:45:44 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-664 This is a sad article---I think women who feel that way are probably attracted to males who are lousy in more ways than one, and they KEEP ATTRACTING that type of man. Their fathers were probably that way, so they havent seen good men who would give their lives for their families This is a sad article—I think women who feel that way are probably attracted to males who are lousy in more ways than one, and they KEEP ATTRACTING that type of man. Their fathers were probably that way, so they havent seen good men who would give their lives for their families

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By: Theo http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-529 Theo Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:18:45 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-529 @Sad Mom Sad Mom, I am so very sorry to hear about your situation. I am a single black male. My wife passed back in 1999. Together we raised two wonderful children. They are both grown now and very productive citizens. Neither one has ever gone to jail or been in any serious trouble. Do not give up on men. There are still some good ones out here. Now, while I do not agree with a lot of what I have read on this site, I will agree with Raz when she tells you to get away from this man. Especially get your son away from this man. I know you say he loves his father (and that is understandable), but children can overcome setbacks. I have personally witness this same thing happen to the child of a friend of mine. Even if you do give up on men for yourself, do not give up on looking for a good role model for your son. He likely needs a good man in his life more than you. He needs a good man to teach him how to act like a man. He needs a good man to teach him how to love and respect women. He needs a good man to teach him how to "effectively" deal with life's inevitable difficulties. He needs a good man to teach him that setting fires is not the answer. He needs a good man to teach him how to be a "MAN". You say that he is eight years old now. YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME IF YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR SON!!! The older he gets, the more difficult it will become. I really get pissed of at men who mistreat women because I know that I may have to suffer the bullshit that the woman may want to put on me because of his actions. I know that men talk a lot about how hard it is to find a good woman. Well Hell. We have messed up a lot of you women!! It does pain me because I would love to have another beautiful relationship. But far too many women have experienced far too many bad men and that does make it hard for me. Good luck Sad Mom. I will say a prayer for you and your son. @Sad Mom
Sad Mom, I am so very sorry to hear about your situation. I am a single black male. My wife passed back in 1999. Together we raised two wonderful children. They are both grown now and very productive citizens. Neither one has ever gone to jail or been in any serious trouble. Do not give up on men. There are still some good ones out here. Now, while I do not agree with a lot of what I have read on this site, I will agree with Raz when she tells you to get away from this man. Especially get your son away from this man. I know you say he loves his father (and that is understandable), but children can overcome setbacks. I have personally witness this same thing happen to the child of a friend of mine. Even if you do give up on men for yourself, do not give up on looking for a good role model for your son. He likely needs a good man in his life more than you. He needs a good man to teach him how to act like a man. He needs a good man to teach him how to love and respect women. He needs a good man to teach him how to “effectively” deal with life’s inevitable difficulties. He needs a good man to teach him that setting fires is not the answer. He needs a good man to teach him how to be a “MAN”. You say that he is eight years old now. YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME IF YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR SON!!! The older he gets, the more difficult it will become.
I really get pissed of at men who mistreat women because I know that I may have to suffer the bullshit that the woman may want to put on me because of his actions. I know that men talk a lot about how hard it is to find a good woman. Well Hell. We have messed up a lot of you women!!
It does pain me because I would love to have another beautiful relationship. But far too many women have experienced far too many bad men and that does make it hard for me.
Good luck Sad Mom. I will say a prayer for you and your son.

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By: Deborrah http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-411 Deborrah Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:15:57 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-411 Here's an interesting article on the subject http://www.nomarriage.com/children.html Here’s an interesting article on the subject
http://www.nomarriage.com/children.html

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By: Renewed http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-332 Renewed Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:42:05 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-332 Deborrah...somehow i stumbled across your website today and i am just amazed! I love the website and i have to say its very enlightening to finally hear someone speak in defense of women. I come from a southern, old school family who most of the members are married, because that was the "right" thing to do in life. At 22 i followed in their footsteps and married a very controlling and abusive man who i had two children by. Around year 4 of being married i jumped up out of my sleep one day and thought about how miserable the women in my family really are. Most of them hate being married, but they would never admit it. To make a long story short, i went through a very long, gruelling and somewhat scary divorce. I am such a feminist i'm not quite sure how i allowed myself to marry this man in the first place. He is still a part of my kids lives, but a very minimal part. I am glad to be in the place where i am now. He hates to see me doing well without him. I have in turn taken the reigns of power from him and he hates it. I have sole custody of my children and I am happy I was strong enough to get out when i did. Deborrah…somehow i stumbled across your website today and i am just amazed! I love the website and i have to say its very enlightening to finally hear someone speak in defense of women.

I come from a southern, old school family who most of the members are married, because that was the “right” thing to do in life. At 22 i followed in their footsteps and married a very controlling and abusive man who i had two children by.

Around year 4 of being married i jumped up out of my sleep one day and thought about how miserable the women in my family really are. Most of them hate being married, but they would never admit it.

To make a long story short, i went through a very long, gruelling and somewhat scary divorce. I am such a feminist i’m not quite sure how i allowed myself to marry this man in the first place. He is still a part of my kids lives, but a very minimal part.

I am glad to be in the place where i am now. He hates to see me doing well without him. I have in turn taken the reigns of power from him and he hates it. I have sole custody of my children and I am happy I was strong enough to get out when i did.

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By: GodBless http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-328 GodBless Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:58:55 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-328 I'm sorry Raz, but you don't know what you are talking about. For the most part, a litigant cannot approach a judge without the other party being present. I'm not going to belabor this, but this is a dirty little secret that people don't know about, the vindictive ex who uses "father's rights" and "joint custody" to control the mother using court proceedings after the marriage/relationship is over, how they do it, and what it ends up doing to the mother and the children. The father has equal rights as the mother, nowadays for the most part a mother cannot just cut a dad out of the child's life--no matter what he may be guilty of--unless the dad goes along with it. These kinds of guys--usually abusers--fight custody and they use the kids to try and destroy the mother. It's a real phenomenon, it's happening out here everyday. Professional women are a huge target of this but it's trickling down as everyone becomes more educated with the ready availability of the Internet. Here's a link, hope this is okay to post; it sets forth many of the reasons that abusive fathers may be favored in family court during custody battles: http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/pas/dv.html Live well all I’m sorry Raz, but you don’t know what you are talking about. For the most part, a litigant cannot approach a judge without the other party being present. I’m not going to belabor this, but this is a dirty little secret that people don’t know about, the vindictive ex who uses “father’s rights” and “joint custody” to control the mother using court proceedings after the marriage/relationship is over, how they do it, and what it ends up doing to the mother and the children.

The father has equal rights as the mother, nowadays for the most part a mother cannot just cut a dad out of the child’s life–no matter what he may be guilty of–unless the dad goes along with it. These kinds of guys–usually abusers–fight custody and they use the kids to try and destroy the mother.

It’s a real phenomenon, it’s happening out here everyday. Professional women are a huge target of this but it’s trickling down as everyone becomes more educated with the ready availability of the Internet.

Here’s a link, hope this is okay to post; it sets forth many of the reasons that abusive fathers may be favored in family court during custody battles: http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/pas/dv.html

Live well all

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By: Raz http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-293 Raz Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:05:01 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-293 Sad Mom When I read your post (and I don't mean to sound unsympathetic here), but I read all the things your ex can do. I don't read anything you can do. Your ex has all the power. No wonder he treats you the way that he does because he 'can'. And you allow it. Your ex has run amuck and he needs to be put in check and you're going to have to take MORE proactive steps to check his behind. There is no need for you to be resigned for the next 10 years of dealing with this mess. You and your son will be traumatized more than you are already and by then, who knows what your mental state and that of your son's will be. There may be other options you have to explore. Don't give up so quickly. Did you read Deborrah's article on the Father's rights' movement? Your Ex is a poster child for what the author described. There could be things you can do since you are now dealing with this situation that can make it less painful for you to go through. You should email Deborrah personally to find out things you can do to gain some better control over the situation and not let your ex terrorize you the way that he has been doing. Also the threshold for doing something illegal vs it being horrible and harmful to your little boy is very high. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it less horrible, harmful or right. There needs to be boundaries and something in place that holds your ex accountable. He needs to be held responsible for the fallout he is causing with your son and the judges need to know this. Even if your ex was awarded joint custody, what is wrong with you meeting with the judge in private and discussing with him what you are dealing with whenever your husband breaks his promise to visit his son, what is wrong with you discussing with the judge, social workers etc.. that your son is a fire bug and the emotional distress he deals with, whenever he is exposed to your ex's poison. You need to start laying down the foundation to 'undo' that joint custody instead of being resigned to it. That judge needs to know what you and your son are going through behind closed doors and away from the court room. Anyone can put on a front with the judge. But they need to know what is going on and you'll need to take steps (if you really want to improve your lot) to make this happen. It's not going to be easy but perhaps you can solicit pro bono work from a family law practice, go to the library research on the internet to find advocacy groups that may get behind you to support you. There are groups out there that lend support to mothers like you dealing with ex's like you are. YOu don't have to go at this alone and be resigned to the next 10 years of torture in your life. You can get someone/group/organization to help you with your cause. How bad do you want to get out of this situation? You can do it, you don't have to be terrorized for the next 10 years! Do you think you can survive that with your mind intact and that of your son? Sad Mom
When I read your post (and I don’t mean to sound unsympathetic here), but I read all the things your ex can do. I don’t read anything you can do. Your ex has all the power. No wonder he treats you the way that he does because he ‘can’. And you allow it. Your ex has run amuck and he needs to be put in check and you’re going to have to take MORE proactive steps to check his behind. There is no need for you to be resigned for the next 10 years of dealing with this mess. You and your son will be traumatized more than you are already and by then, who knows what your mental state and that of your son’s will be.

There may be other options you have to explore. Don’t give up so quickly. Did you read Deborrah’s article on the Father’s rights’ movement? Your Ex is a poster child for what the author described.
There could be things you can do since you are now dealing with this situation that can make it less painful for you to go through. You should email Deborrah personally to find out things you can do to gain some better control over the situation and not let your ex terrorize you the way that he has been doing. Also the threshold for doing something illegal vs it being horrible and harmful to your little boy is very high. Just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t make it less horrible, harmful or right.
There needs to be boundaries and something in place that holds your ex accountable. He needs to be held responsible for the fallout he is causing with your son and the judges need to know this.
Even if your ex was awarded joint custody, what is wrong with you meeting with the judge in private and discussing with him what you are dealing with whenever your husband breaks his promise to visit his son, what is wrong with you discussing with the judge, social workers etc.. that your son is a fire bug and the emotional distress he deals with, whenever he is exposed to your ex’s poison.
You need to start laying down the foundation to ‘undo’ that joint custody instead of being resigned to it. That judge needs to know what you and your son are going through behind closed doors and away from the court room. Anyone can put on a front with the judge. But they need to know what is going on and you’ll need to take steps (if you really want to improve your lot) to make this happen.

It’s not going to be easy but perhaps you can solicit pro bono work from a family law practice, go to the library research on the internet to find advocacy groups that may get behind you to support you. There are groups out there that lend support to mothers like you dealing with ex’s like you are. YOu don’t have to go at this alone and be resigned to the next 10 years of torture in your life. You can get someone/group/organization to help you with your cause. How bad do you want to get out of this situation? You can do it, you don’t have to be terrorized for the next 10 years! Do you think you can survive that with your mind intact and that of your son?

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By: Sad Mom http://survivingdating.com/why-women-should-stop-having-children/comment-page-1#comment-292 Sad Mom Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:18:20 +0000 http://survivingdating.com/?p=1091#comment-292 you have it all wrong Raz. my ex fought for joint custody and won in court. I cannot leave the state without his permission so he can get visitation. its a court order. as long as our son is under age my ex has legal protection. nothing he is doing is illegal its just really horrible and hurtful to our little boy. i have been to legal aid attorneys because I dont have money for a private lawyer. and in front of judges my ex presents himself as a model father. he shows pictures of the few times he did pick up his son. if i leave and cut him off from seeing our boy I can lose custody completely and be jailed. what you suggest I do cannot be done. otherwise if my ex gets custody I may never see my son again. He makes excuses to call me when he has our son for his weekends and I answer because I never know if it is going to be an emergency or if my son wants to come home. I hate that this is my life for the next 10 years. Deborrah solution is the best way othewrise you might end up in a bad situation like I am. you have it all wrong Raz. my ex fought for joint custody and won in court. I cannot leave the state without his permission so he can get visitation. its a court order. as long as our son is under age my ex has legal protection. nothing he is doing is illegal its just really horrible and hurtful to our little boy. i have been to legal aid attorneys because I dont have money for a private lawyer. and in front of judges my ex presents himself as a model father. he shows pictures of the few times he did pick up his son. if i leave and cut him off from seeing our boy I can lose custody completely and be jailed. what you suggest I do cannot be done. otherwise if my ex gets custody I may never see my son again. He makes excuses to call me when he has our son for his weekends and I answer because I never know if it is going to be an emergency or if my son wants to come home. I hate that this is my life for the next 10 years. Deborrah solution is the best way othewrise you might end up in a bad situation like I am.

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